actually kaltenbach... that post relates more to another thread we were in earlier tonite not this one so much... i dunno what i did to you tho... you didnt read the rules when you joined, which you were supposed to, so i politely informed you of them and even gave you the freakin link.. i guess i coulda copied and pasted them and highlighted the particular sentence for ya but, you're a freakin yankees fan, have george pay me to do it....